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GILGO: Long Island Serial Killer

THE LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER

Is it just one killer? A pair? Or a ring?


It's a queer place, Gilgo Beach on Long Island. With its overgrowth and swamps, this strip of godforsaken wasteland--only a hop, skip and jump from Manhattan via Ocean Parkway--is becoming the ideal place to dump dead bodies in. In fact, one can almost picture poor old Jimmy Hoffa comfortably resting out here.

Sometimes the killer dismembers their corpse and scatters the parts around Gilgo just like fertilizer. Sometimes they feel lazy or in a rush, so they simply stuff the body into a cheap suitcase and toss it from the side of the highway. Sometimes they drag the dead far out into the bogs and sink them way down into the bracken swampwater so the evidence will quickly wash away. Sometimes they wrap the body in burlap bags and even bury them, almost like a landscaper....

GILGO: The Long Island Serial Killer
Solving the case that nobody else wanted to.




'LISK' CASE FACTS &  KILLER PROFILE: 
The murdered remains of prostitutes have recently begun resurfacing at Gilgo Beach in Long Island, a remote and swampy place along Ocean Parkway where they were all pitilessly tossed after they were beaten, tortured and strangled.
The discovery of the dumping ground at Gilgo and at a number of other neighboring beachfronts in 2010 has many citizens, plus the FBI, fearing a serial killer may be active in the Long Island district--a thrill-killing psychopath who’s targeting workers of the sex trade as easy prey since they are so rarely missed by anybody, and because, unfortunately, their disappearances are generally a low priority to law enforcement.
The Federal Bureau of Investigations, while not yet formally involved with the Gilgo investigation, is expert at hunting and apprehending such offenders, with extensive databases and virtually unlimited resources at their disposal. Here is the profile that trained criminologists have compiled for the, thus far unknown, Long Island Serial Killer:   
  • white male in his mid twenties to mid forties 
  • well-spoken and college educated  
  • financially secure, has a job and a vehicle  
  • knowledge of police procedures and forensics  
  • charming and/or in a position of trust  
  • methodical sadist, sexually deviant 
  • careful - classified as ‘organized’ serial killer  
  • lives in the NYC area, familiar with Gilgo region

What exactly is a "FROST'D manager" and who in the world is "Gates, Wyley Mr." of Brooklyn NY, a borough in New York City that's but a hop, skip, and jump from Gilgo Beach and Ocean Parkway?
An acronym for Foundation for the Research of Sexually Transmitted Diseases, the FROST’D organization provides confidential outreach services and programs exclusively to individuals within the NYC metropolitan region who work in the sex trade, as well as to prostitutes who identify themselves as transgendered and those who are also habitual substance abusers.
From the FROST’D corporation's online mission statement: While the agency got its start in serving prostitutes, our experience in reaching out to and serving female, male and transgender minority street-based sex workers results in much more than a renowned and respected reputation as ‘that agency that works with prostitutes.’ Our work with a severely traumatized, vulnerable, mistrusting and fragile population taught FROST'D the very principles of harm reduction years before this term.” 
So, does the Long Island Serial Killer work in a managerial position providing confidential services to New York City prostitutes...? Could the killer be a former convicted felon and a self-confessed mass murderer...?


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  1. It's this post that helped me find your site. I grew up on Long Island and have followed this case since the bodies were found. There are many websites following this case that for some reason gave up and stopped following the case. Please don't let it fall off. The victims and their families deserve justice. Regardless of whether the victims were prostitutes or not, they were human beings that didn't deserve to die.

    I often wonder if it is a single killer or a pair. I'm convinced it's not a ring of killers.

    Please keep up the great work you do! I look forward to reading more of your work. Thank you for all you do.

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    1. Thanks, friend, and welcome to Killing Killers!

      I think the main problem (now) is that the crime scene on Long Island was decimated by Hurricane Sandy, as I'm sure few believe there weren't more victims' bodies to be found at Gilgo.

      But you're right as well that if serial slayings involve sex workers (and they commonly do) then police aren't as interested in solving them.

      Keep in mind too that the number one suspect so far (no names mentioned) is a former police forensics surgeon who has fled the area since having been found guilty of lying about contacting Shannan Gilbert's mother BEFORE that murdered call girl was even listed among the missing.

      He also was caught issuing false and misleading statements throughout LE's inquiry into Gilbert's dramatic disappearance...

      Again, without consequence.

      E.R.

      P.S. The article on this page provides clues as to the potential identity of the Long Island Serial Killer sans any accomplices after the fact. He has mass killed before (his own family including a toddler cousin) and was only convicted and released after 17 years to the NYC area for conspiracy to kill them due to a technicality concerning his voluntary confession. This individual is dangerous, has/had direct contact with NYC prostitutes as a service provider, and should therefore be looked into pronto. (See my book 'Dungeons, Dragons, Murder' for more details.)

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    2. I had the unfortunate pleasure of working with the aforementioned "surgeon". Many of colleagues and myself believe he is the one. It did not shock any of us that he was involved. I do believe that the county will do anything to keep him from being arrested, since they would have to explain how a county employee is a serial killer.......... FYI He has connections with Manorville, Davis Park and Gilgo....

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    3. Hey they need to compare his voice and let amanda here it. Melissas sister one of the slain. Even he calmley asked her"going to be a whore like her sister" society needs to press this investigaion and investigate the hell out of him. A surgeon knows how to cut and dismember. And why would he tell shannon mom that. Sorry too much here that does not add up. I dont care if he was a forensic surgeon working for the county this is why they havent caught him. Too smart. They need to put aside their embarrasement and catch this monster. He is smart no doubt. People in new york need to push for more to catch this person. All needs to come together never stop until this brutal killer is brought to justice. if it was top profile people like the pres they would have found him by now. Its all about the preserverance and how bad they want to catch him. I know clues were lost but something has to be out there. Every day no one is safe with this loose cannon running around. What gives him a right to be free when he has taken so many peoples lives. Not only that but tortured his victims. No one should ever die that way. No one.regaurdless of what any one does in their lives we are still human.

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    4. ((A leak in the case )) LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER DNA LINK DISCOVERED 1989 HOMICIDE.FBI AND SUFFOLK DA ARE IN GAME.SEARCH BING OR AOL www.GilgoBeachCoverUp.com

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  2. Thanks E.R.! I bought your book 'D, D, M' this morning. I look forward to reading it.

    Serial killers often pick homeless people or prostitutes because they are transient and often missing a long time before it's reported. Look how long Gary Ridgeway and Robert Pickton got away with killing. It seems LE almost considers them disposable until the body count rises.

    The Doc is definitely suspect. His call to Mary Gilbert could be 'alibi building'. His lies, while consequence free, are very telling. I would like to see the FBI invited in to offer their considerable expertise. Suffolk County stubbornly refuses their assistance. WHY???

    Too many questions and not enough answers.

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    1. Gratitude, Advocate. I think you'll find that book very informative.

      The FBI has at least once or twice asked Suffolk County authorities to invite them into the serial killer hunt. But all offers thus far have been declined, which casts even greater suspicion on their former police surgeon ... as it should.

      Personally, I think this serial murderer's crossed state lines to kill and/or dump, so am a bit puzzled why the FBI requires an invitation at this point.

      It is a mysterious matter. More so than it has to be, unfortunately.

      Thanks for dropping in again -- much appreciated!

      E.R.

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    2. I think the person in question is a male, late 50s. Physician in the area who rounds at hospitals near the beach. I think he is married, has children, hires prostitutes while on business trips and while on Long Island. Highly intelligent. Kind to his patients. A man you would never suspect, and that is why these women trusted him. Sadistic. Ego maniac, but in reality has very low self esteem. They need to pull all of the cellphone records and emails from these women and go through every single caller.

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  3. http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/48_hours_gilbert.pdf

    These are not the words of an innocent man.....

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  4. “We hope that she is still alive. But it has also brought up this whole investigation which I think, in my opinion, has been happening for years now, and might not have been ever looked into,” Karen Gambino said. This is the Doc's next door neighbor!!!!

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  5. Why would Steve Bellone want them to solve this case? what is his newly appointed SCPD Commish doing to bring the killer to justice? There are several Oak beach residents that know exactly what happened to SG...why wont the media pressure residents to diclose what they know... Justin Canning claims to have seen SG's footprints in the sand! where and when was this? Tom Canning knows the exact spot SG ran into the wetlands! Did he see her run in? Why didnt he send officers in SG's direction that morning?

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  6. Gilbert was last seen in May by Long Island doctor Peter Hackett, who said he saw Gilbert running at night near Oak Beach, looking both sick and distressed.

    Why would the Doc say he saw her running looking both sick and distressed and this good samaritian did nothing about??? didnt think to help or protect her?? where was this taking place? Visibility of the street is very limited in the vicinity of CPH's house....for the doc to make a comment like this SG would have to be practically in his driveway

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    1. Moreover, how did the doctor get Mari Gilbert's name and phone number if, as he later claimed, he had no contact with Shannan? Ms. Gilbert said Shannan would never have given out her name and numbe and though the doctor denied calling her, phone records prove otherwise. Though I don't think the doctor is LISK, I believe he's holding back and not giving up the ghost on something. Many things.

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    2. this is quite old info..I refer you to Zero's World Blog...anyhow, check out John Bitrolff...Google

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  7. What about the content of the conversation that Doc had with MG? Where is this shelter for runaway girls? Why does the Doc have a website describing an office at the beach. Why was SG's hynoid bone not found?

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  8. I believe it's a women ordering this murders. A business women in manhattan

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  9. I still believe a women order these murders

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  10. This movie should never be made. Making money off women & child being murdered is crime in it self. I am no fan of the lost boys who did this horrible deed. Bikers. Disgusting

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  11. Any new information out there on this case? Interest has really dwindled, sadly. Getting harder to dig anything up, literally and I'm sure physically as well if anyone is still trying to...

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    1. LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER DNA LINK DISCOVERED 1989 HOMICIDE FBI AND SUFFOLK DNA ARE ON GAME SEARCH BING OR AOL www.GilGoBeachCoverUp.com

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  12. What about Jb & His friend peter p

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  13. the case goes as far back as 1996 when legs were found. They matched it with the torso found at gilgo.

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  14. the killer is in his 40s-50s with a nice car very organized and has a family.

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  15. the killer is not a psychopath but a sociopath that gets off on killing. He first started dismembering the body's in the first few killings, but something changed and he wasn't satisfied with this method of killing. He also didn't throw the body's out he took them and placed them it only took 30sec for him to do this. if everyone remembers they found a male body and a baby's body. The male was an Asian male that dressed like a female the baby's DNA matched remains of another body that was found witch is in dead the baby's mother. it is common for women to bring there baby's to do the job

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    1. Psychopath / sociopath are the same.

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    2. Psychopath / sociopath are the same.

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    3. You are are wrong, psychopaths are born this way, sociopath become that way because things that happened in their lives.

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    4. It's literally just a different term for the same disorder.

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    5. Psycopaths and sociopaths are similar. Although they are used interchangeably, there are some notable differences.

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    6. it is absolutely not common for prostitutes to bring their babies on their "dates" I bet that woman must have been very desperate to have done that..its all so sad..I hope they solve this one day..I believe doc hackett has something to do with it, as well as burke, the crooked cop..also its possible that john bitrolf may have done some of the early ones, such as the legs on fire island etc.
      I wish I could hear that 911 call of shannon gilberts, and I wonder if the cops have forensics that link all the bodies somehow...such a mystery..

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    7. I believe P-H is the LISK along with his wife (who I believe made the booking calls which allowed the victims to lower their safety guards like leaving their phones by request of the wifes desire for descretion while most likely booking the victims for her supposed handicapped husband).
      I also believe he initially began disecting and amputating his victims body parts out of pure curiosity and to feed his sick desire for power over life and death.
      He realized that it was too messy and left too much trace evidence and found that his main gratification was derived from the psychological torture and manipulation of his victims above and beyond subjecting them to any of his previous desire once harbored to physically torture the victims.
      A neighbor of P-H has made witness claims that P-H has had many burlap bags stacked inside his backyard before he was aware that people were onto him.

      This case needs to be solved and there is zero reason why it hasn't been solved yet. The police and FBI need to put massive pressure on P-H and the Gilbert family needs to file a wrongful death suit against P-H.

      I recently read that Shannons mother was killed by her oldest (I think) daughter. The police need to get this sooved asap and give this family and the families of other victims justice that they've been waiting for ,for so long!



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    8. LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER DNA LINK DISCOVERED. FBI AND SUFFOLK DA ARE ON GAME.1989 HOMICIDE SEARCH BING OR AOL www.GilGoBeachCoverUp.com

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  16. I still think there are more people involved in this. A gang of people, also I think a women order these murders.

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  17. They need to start making arrest, an the police department needs to man up. Stop taking orders from the manhattan women nut job. An lock them all up. We don' t need the rifkin coverup again.

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  18. There in big trouble. Dumb asses. The public isn't that stupid. There days are numbered. Morons

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    1. Their* (It never fails: a total moron calling someone else a "moron". I love the irony. I hate the ignorance.)

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    2. Now don't you forget that first They're*...

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    3. Landon11 is correct. It's their. Not they're. Or there. Anyways... let's all focus on the goal at hand in hopes of getting these victims the justice they deserve!

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  19. Why is it that they ruled it out as a "murder" yet they found parts of her neck bone missing? How was it even missing? There had to have been slashes around her neck that would clearly indicate it wasn't a drug induced death.

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    1. I don't know if you are aware of the state of her 'body'. It was already decomposed, what they really examined was her skeletal, there is no mark on necks to be verified because there was no flesh anymore.

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    2. Animals walk off with bones sometimes.

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  20. Definitely a republican, there women haters

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  21. I think it's a waterman or a pair of watermen. Very familiar with the area, wouldn't arouse suspicion being in the area at just about anytime of day or night. And they know all the spots areound the bay and the beach

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    1. I disagree bc the bodies were very near the road, not far into the brush etc.

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  24. Statistics can be made to veered one way or another........ Ask a Scientist, its what we do...... How do you define a crime ?? No how do define a murder ?? ...... Death by misadventure now there is a statement !! Define misadventure, I like to swim ?? Sober or drunk out of my defined parameter ...... People drown all the time.................NICE go ROX

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  25. Oh wait im a white female way too old for misadventure

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  26. PLEASE OBSERVE these COORDINATES I believe COPS are behind this 40.658494, -73.240200

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    1. They might be killing and framing some people right now to take the blame

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  27. There seems to be an illegal encampment during the cold season due east of gilgo do you see that! OMG im going to report this this needs to be reported! that looks like a crime scene

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  28. A young lady this weekend vert sweet great personality and beautiful in pa said her mom and dad were dead and that when her dad was buried she found out he was serial killer who killed prostitutes on long island she was talking to several of us you can tell she is really good person and she works hard

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    1. Is there any reason to believe this other than hearsay? If anecdotal evidence was taken for truth, the world would be confirmed one very messed up and contradictory place.

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  30. The gilgo killer is like a Gary Luttenberger, running on one cylinder, and his brother in law, k9-6 SCPD

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    1. Who? Why them? What lead you to that conclusion?

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  32. Well, the FBI are grand masters in profiling the killers even before they're identity is revealed with 99.6 accuracy. They've just confirmed that the Long Island Serial killer is a disorganized, non-dominant (weak minded) homosexual who murders girls due to the shame of his sexual orientation and lack of mental and physical strength. Sounds like grade-A, useless, coward pussy to me.

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    1. If he's so disorganized how has he gotten away with all of these murders? Seems like carelessness from law enforcement to me.

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  33. I have found something of interest on Google Earth (Just hear me out)... it's at the precise location to where one of the Jane Doe's was found and some of the remains of Jessica Taylor. It seems as if somebody has pulled up in a vehicle very very close to a brush there and perhaps turned their vehicle around. Now this doesn't seem to be anything abnormal right, but why in that location?! Its the precise location to where their remains are... and especially when there's a turning a few yards to the left.... but perhaps the really fucking interesting part ...... The image is dated back to 3/1/2007....... add these coordinates in to Google Earth ...... 40°36'09.81"N .. 73°27'52.86"W .. elev 13ft .. eye alt 333 ft ............ ?! Please tell me I'm just seeing things.....

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    1. I didn't see anything on those coordinates

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    2. This is interesting. Can you please provide screenshot? Or link to a pic? Matthew from the UK

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    3. I know this is an old post, but I found this today and thought it interesting. I do see the tire marks just as you described, except to say that both of the lanes of Ocean Parkway are westbound. The eastbound lanes are just south and it is three lanes. It is a separated highway. So, coming from Gilgo, one would have pulled off, dumped the body to the right then pull back up on the road towards the city. Its unpopulated and dark out there. Very interesting.

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  34. Call me crazy but I'm telling you!!! That is at THE!!! precise!!! location of one of the Jane Doe's....

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  36. This was so helpful thanks

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  37. The killer was cops who own a security company and are into mind control, they harassed stalked and assaulted one of their own guards to try to make him think Mr. Bisset assaulted him, because that's who they were trying to frame

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    1. Which cops? I would assume they have names, or at least an alias or moniker. Which security company? Which guards (sources)? What motive is there for them to fame him? Who's him? Mr Bisset?
      This sounds oh so enthralling. However, it would be nice if it were a more complete scenario.

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  38. The covering of the victims shows they are conflicted of what they had done chopping the victim up is a sexual element so could be a different killer strangling the victim is more of the same element. The killer would live or work in and around the area where the victims were found they also likely white mid 30 40's . The burlap sack is a clue why use that to cover your victim ? That in itself is a clue there is people who collect clams around the area so could mean something to this Unsub . The strangling shows to a Sexual Sadist shows power over the victim or control this Unsub would be intelligent uses social media speaks clearly is able to lure his victims into trusting him he would be good looking so a woman would have no reason to not trust him they would be charming and charismatic . He would have either lost a girl friend or relationship they would have shown signs of stress in between murders and would interject themselves into the investigation . Someone who kills this many would always be watching social media because they would get off on that people were talking about it .

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    1. Can be possible he could have been the owner of a cleaning company for example and maybe he has experience working in a food delivery service or postal and waste services? 30_40years some bisexual preferences, not married, no children, only few girlfriends, childhood past full of mental sick siblings, dislike his mother? No front theet?

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  39. Joel David RIFKIN look at the similarities

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  40. Odd how SCPD solves 98% of homicides yet they cant solve this one? Multiple murders and nothing solid.. very interdasting

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  41. Killer lives on exit 17 495 or in massappequa I beleave

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    1. Any reason for this? Perhaps you pinned the tail on the Long Island map? Certainly there's more to this story than what you provided. C'mon, Internet. Don't fail me.

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  42. I think it's interesting how the autopsy report of SG show absolutely no drugs in her system!!!
    1) she wasn't known cocaine user-
    2) how client Joe admitted to partying in the house with her for 3 hours-
    3) the doc admitted to giving her something to calm her down-
    I don't understand how they how they are ruling SG death as an accidental death??
    I honestly believe she was caught and being held captive somewhere.. (Thus allowing the drugs to leave her system).. Then I believe she was killed and dumped back into the marshes , where she originally went missing..

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    1. They only had her skeletal to investigate, plus, I read some drugs take some time to get into the system and leave trace, it seems she was killed before her tissue and bones absolve the drugs she used that night.

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  43. Peggy Brown was ordering this done, her friends killed cops fore their uniforms while they impersonate police officers with their uiforms and a crown vic that looked legitimate yet was not

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  44. The problem is, not just 12 dead girls on the beach, but hundreds of children who were killed and liquefied by these same people impersonating police, which is why law enforcement does not give a damn about a few dead prostitutes

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    1. Where are you getting this information? I have not seen anything like this elsewhere, not that I've been extensively researching, but one would imagine such a detail would be a tough one to gloss over. How does one liquefy another? Ambiguity is honestly the worst form of misleading.

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  45. I've corresponded with dozens of Serial Killers and murderers over the past 10 yrs. It gives oneself a small glimpse into their mindset yet the drawback is when NY Post and others think your the L.I.S.K. because of this and you that live in LI. You'd think they'd have some evidence or proof before drooling over the thought of their 15mins of fame - sad..

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    1. Why would a newspaper cite you as a criminal based purely from your correspondences with criminals? How would they even know? Do they ask notorious criminals who their pen pals are, or oppositely, do criminals divulge their interactions to newspapers? Did you tell the NY Post? Are you in close proximity or relation to someone involved? Do you have some intimate connection with the case? I can't think of any other reason why you would be fingered as a criminal.
      There is always massive speculation surrounding unsolved or unresolved crimes. It's unfortunate that innocent people are seen as guilty as a result of coincidence or happenstance.
      But really, these cases really tap into our inner most fears. It's difficult to know that nameless monsters exist. Much like with many things in life, people will manufacture answers to questions that plague them. IE: religion, unsolved crimes, "ghosts", etc.
      Can you go a little bit deeper as to with whom you corresponded? I'm curious. Like you, I want to know why the monster exists as a monster, and why they cannot control their urges. But I don't want to correspond with them. It just feels a bit too personal. I would much rather the vicarious approach.

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  46. This thing wreaks of a massive cover-up.
    Based on SGs call to police I believe there was more than one person responsible. Also there have been contradictory reports from police about SG at the time she called them fearing for her life; she was "calm" Vs she was "scared out of her mind". Why the discrepancy? surely there is no similarity between those two states to justify such a stark contrast in reports from police?
    The mere mention of Hackett sets off an orchestera (not just alarm bells!).
    He called Gilberts family/he didnt call. He came into contact with SG that morning/he did not. Cell phone data showed evidence he had called Gilberts family from an area he had denied being in. He used to work for the police force who "coincidentally" have so far been unable to solve this ongoing multiple murder case. (James Burkes History is questionable to say the least. He worked for suffolk county police around the same time as Hackett)
    Additionally there is Joe Scalise one of the residents in the vicinity of Brewers house, who claims he was later told by another resident there (Canning, who had come out of his home shortly after SG had knocked the door of his neighbour), that Hackett had sedated SG - http://www.vice.com/read/ghosts-of-suffolk-county-inside-the-bizarre-unsolved-case-of-the-long-island-serial-killer
    Its highly possible there was systemic and historical abuse, exploitation and subsequent murder of sex workers by those in trusted positions all of whom aided and abetted one another in the concealing of such evil deeds.
    It will take a renewed, refreshed and clean police force to uncover the real truth..
    Jd

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    1. Wow, you were right, you should work as profiler

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  47. Every murder here was snuff filmed, at coram materials, except for the Asian guy with the dress and his baby they were seen at huntington station before going to "party on the beach" Peggy Brown the Pedophile was involved, POLICE are too corrupt to solve anything they call their key witnesses insane and crazy

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    1. The baby did not belong to the male victim. It belonged to one of the female victims. This is according to everything I've read. DNA evidence confirmed this. I believe it would have been mentioned if an entire family trio were victims, as opposed to just mother and child. Do you have any sources for this information or is it purely speculative?

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  48. Theres a connection between Gilgo Beach and the Atlantic city murders, that POLICE are completely ignoring, this was done by a group of builders who were killing people on their construction sites, putting bodies underneath foundations

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    1. CCC? Carne Construction?? God, are u kidding with this craP..??

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  49. Zack Klein, the former owner of Vimeo, desecrated a dead cop at Coram Materials. All the murders were snuff filmed on vimeo private servers.

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  50. Coram Materials is where they kill cops and prostitutes, it all depends if your part of the club. If they like you, the ritual is an initiation, if they don't like you its blackmail, either way its genocide

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    1. What are your sources for this information? Inquiring minds want more than an unsubstantiated claim. Please, and thank you.

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  51. The profile of LISK should include no taller than 5'9"

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  52. From what i know , and knowing jimmy bisset for some time , it was definitely not him !!!! They should be looking at that piece of shit JAMES BURKE .. i know a few retired detectives that worked on the gilgo case , and swear its BURKE

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  53. From what i know , and knowing jimmy bisset for some time , it was definitely not him !!!! They should be looking at that piece of shit JAMES BURKE .. i know a few retired detectives that worked on the gilgo case , and swear its BURKE

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    1. I have always wondered if there were 4 killers, working as a murder club. The millionaire who committed suicide, Dr. Hackett,man whose house Shannon ran from, and James Burke or the neighbor that left town. I have never heard this as a theory from law enforcement. It would answer why the different mos. Has anyone heard this theory from law enforcement?

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    2. I agree with you 100 percent. I've known that piece of shit JAMES BURKE for 40 years and immediately thought he was the killer. It's only my intuition, but it's strong. He is involved with these murders and covered them up. I hope he stays in jail for the rest of his disgusting life!!!!!!!!

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  54. From what i know , and knowing jimmy bisset for some time , it was definitely not him !!!! They should be looking at that piece of shit JAMES BURKE .. i know a few retired detectives that worked on the gilgo case , and swear its BURKE

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    1. What reasons did they have for coming to this conclusion? Surely if they were investigators the conclusion was brought on by evidence. Or at least sound, logical reasoning. I find it weird how non specific people are with these stories.

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  55. A man named Anthony Franco from massepeaqua told my sister that he was question for these murders. He told her this while out on a boat alone. He has a shoulder injury which explains the women being all small. He is 51yrs old. All the things she has told me make me think he is the killer.

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    1. What did she tell you? People are very non specific here.

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    2. What did he say? I'm doing research and found a Anthony Franco in Massapequa, must be his son though because he looks like he is in his 20's. He does construction, so if this in fact his son, could be a reason for the burlap sacks.

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  56. do you think it's also possible that a man from a very wealthy family who may have a relative who has a house in Gilgo Beach that was at his disposal whenever he needed it to do his bidding is possible

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    1. Yes! Someone who was questioned in suspicious family death

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  57. I would ask the investigators to look into a Native American connection, I say this because of the way some of the bodies were displayed, face down and with the head facing east, my Ancestors would "stage" the body of someone they had killed in battle, face down so that the dead persons spirit can not roam this world to do the killer any harm and they would face the body pointing east to greet the rising sun so that the spirit would be delivered to the after life. I have seen the story of the LISK cases for the first time tonight on A&E and the info on how the bodies were placed immediately brought back memories of my cultures traditions upon killing the enemy, I hope the police can take another look at past suspects and look for the Native American link, I fear the killer may be Native, part Native or knows our culture well, they say it is sometimes the smallest of clues that break a case, it would be nice if this was the case here, Thank you for your time, J.Red Horse.

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  58. JAMES BURKE IS ONE OF THE KILLERS. FBI WILL GET HIM NOW THAT HE CAN'T COVER IT UP ANYMORE.

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    1. The FBI AND SUFFOLK DA ARE ON GAME.LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER DNA LINK DISCOVERED.1989 HOMICIDE .FOR DETAILS SEARCH BING OR AOL www.GilgoBeachCoverUp.com

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    2. The FBI AND SUFFOLK DA ARE ON GAME.LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER DNA LINK DISCOVERED.1989 HOMICIDE .FOR DETAILS SEARCH BING OR AOL www.GilgoBeachCoverUp.com

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  59. Hello, J.Red Horse - I hope you will join us in conversation at websleuths.com to discuss this case!

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    1. I will look into the site and Thanks for the invite.

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  60. LISK is still at large. He is 57 years old, and lives in Manorville. His brother was a high profile defense attorney for Suffolk County who is now retired, and living in Dade County, Flordia. What was stumbled upon is a family of five brothers all living in different areas of the country who compete. Their father was also a serial killer.
    I know this as a theory posed to me by a family member who worked in the county office for many years, and saw the cover ups. It's not LISK it's LISKS.

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    1. I believe the killer IS from Manerville, but his name is John Bitrolff..Google..serial killer convicted of 2 murders back in the 90's..ties to victims at Gilgo AND Manerville

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  61. LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER DNA LINK DISCOVERED 1989 HOMICIDE FBI IS ON GAME.SEARCH AOL OR BING www.GilGoBeachCoverUp.com

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  62. Check that wyley gates guy at murderpedia, killed his whole family, RELEASED GROM PRISON IN august 2002.

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  63. Imagine this...... The killer could be any one on these comments making educated guesses on who the killer is being an active participant in the conversation about themselves. I can see the killer being a closer homosexual in a heterosexual marriage killing his shame away. His play/dumping ground has been Disturbed and is watched so he probably didn't kill for a while and then took a baby step here and there away from home after thoroughly studying the new area. After interest died down he could come home and I'd be willing to bet there's at least one new body back out there on those beaches but ever since back page and Craigslist personals were shut down his fishing pond has all but dried up. He will have to convert to a more hands on approach meaning he's most likely active in forums or groups on Reddit or other online communities that are discussing alternatives to Craiglist personals or where to pick up dates now. One must adapt with an appetite like that they couldn't just give it up all together the anxiety and need for that next thrill of the kill would be too much eventually. Honestly though they have definitely been in these sites and read these posts which is sad because all these comments do is incite them to continue doing this heinous s**t.

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  64. John Mallia, of the Suffolk County Police Department and a former private investigator found at least five of the bodies. I find that highly suspicious. He lives out north and east of Gilgo beach so he's a local. Probably retired by now. My opinion

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    1. Mallister was a K9 officer. His dog was specifically trained as a cadaver dog.

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